In a revealing interview on the “Mea Culpa” podcast, Michael Wolff, one of Donald Trump’s most well-known biographers, offered fresh insights into the former president’s long and controversial relationship with disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein.
Wolff, the author of Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, joined former Trump attorney Michael Cohen on Sunday to discuss recent revelations surrounding Epstein. The conversation comes in the wake of a Wall Street Journal report that exposed a lewd birthday letter allegedly written by Trump to Epstein on his 50th birthday.
“Epstein would often recount his experiences with women, hunting women, pursuing women, with Trump,” Wolff told Cohen. “Including, at one point, they shared a girlfriend for the better part of a year.” The startling comment adds another layer to the long-scrutinized connection between Trump and Epstein—one Trump has tried increasingly to downplay.
According to Wolff, Trump has gone as far as making personal calls to MAGA influencers, urging them to stop discussing the Epstein files. He has also reportedly lashed out at supporters still focused on Epstein’s crimes, calling them “stupid” and “weaklings.”
Despite Trump’s efforts to create distance, Wolff insisted the relationship between the two men was close and well-documented. “Donald certainly knew what was going on at Epstein’s house,” Wolff claimed. “In fact, I have seen pictures, a set of Polaroid pictures, that Epstein would sometimes display, of Donald Trump prior to 2004 at Epstein’s Palm Beach [Florida] house around the pool with young girls.”
These Polaroids, while not publicly released, add to the narrative that Trump was frequently present in Epstein’s social circle and allegedly aware of the activity occurring at his estate. Wolff also highlighted how some of Trump’s current and former political allies may have found common ground with Epstein through shared criticism of Trump himself.
“[Steve Bannon] bonded with Jeffrey Epstein about this, because they both had this experience, and they both thought they knew more than anybody about who Donald Trump really was,” Wolff said.
The podcast episode adds to mounting scrutiny over Trump’s historical connections to Epstein, even as the former president attempts to steer public focus elsewhere during his ongoing political campaign. With Epstein’s past once again making headlines, Trump may find it increasingly difficult to detach himself from a relationship he now seems eager to forget.